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Subject: Religious Research
Date: Mar 07, 2009 09:31
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The United States is not the friendliest place for evolutionary theory. Recent Gallup polls indicate that only 15% of our 300 million people agree with a proposition that human beings evolved over million of years. Astonishingly enough, this lowly number represents a two-fold increase since 25 years ago.

Recent evolutionary and religious theory is showing that peoples’ belief in evolution is inversely related to their belief in religion. More traditional nations believe in God more and in evolution less where nations whose publics ardently support evolutionary theory seem to be less enthusiastic about church. Countries like Iceland, Denmark, and France have high rates of evolutionary acceptance, where the US has a relatively lower rate of acceptance.

Two researchers, Gregory Paul and Phil Zuckerman, have a new twist on this God-Darwin relationship. They argue that a nation’s belief in God is also inversely related to the level of evolutionary pressure within that nation. In places where it is easier to live, where food, housing, and healthcare are easily attainable, the people there tend to believe in God less. There is less evolutionary pressure to live and survive in such areas so the people tend to ask the Lord for less. Conversely, in places where basic human needs are not guaranteed by the state, there exists more pressure for survival and a higher belief in God. In societies most subject to “survival of the fittest” pressures is where one will find Sundays full of packed congregations.

This suggests that more people ask the higher power for things that are not secure, and that security begets a greater acceptance of scientific theory.

Hard information provided by “The Economist.”
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Subject: Surprised?
Date: Oct 22, 2008 20:07
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The Surprising Beliefs of Non-Believers

The Russian author, Dostoevsky, is quoted, "If God does not exist, then everything is permitted." One of today's most prominent atheists, Richard Dawkins, has called traditional religious belief "dangerously irrational." (which I agree) Yet, when pressed for an explanation of the origin of life, he resorted to the scifi theme of a superior species from outer space!

A recent study of Baylor University, What Americans Really Believe reveals that adherence to traditional Christianity actually reduces various superstitions, like palm reading and astrology. And members of the more liberal denominations are more likely  to attribute credibility to the claims of pseudoscience and to so called paranormal phenomena.

The studys index of belief in the occult and paranormal revealed that 31% of people who never worship expressed a strong belief in such things, but only 8% of frequent worshippers did so.

The science writer, Martin Gardner, wrote that the decline of traditional religious belief among the better educated seemed one of the causes of an increase in pseudoscience, cults and superstition.

But the claim of rationality by atheists is often trumped by their actual beliefs! For example, a Pew Foundation study found that 21% of self proclaimed atheists pray at least weekly and 12% believe in heaven! Even more incredible, those same 21% state that they believe in a personal God or an impersonal force! My philosophy instructor once said "Atheist" just means I do not believe in "your God." I thought it was untrue, but it rings true after hearing these statistics. I guess it is all just a matter of opinion. I see nothing wrong with being an atheist yet choosing to pray. But then again if you claim and stand to be one thing, why do you do, and believe otherwise?

G.K Charleston observed the strange consequence of disbelief that results in atheists, secularists, humanists and avowed rationalist being more susceptible to superstition: "It's the first effect of not believing in God that you lose your common sense, and can't see things as they are."

Just food for thought!
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Subject: How is a Man Saved?
Date: Feb 24, 2008 21:52
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(QUOTE)  I'm a Christian, I've always been one, and I always plan on being one.

Everyone has sinned sometime in their life. (Except Jesus) the only way to get to heaven by doing good deeds is to have been perfect and to have never sinned, which is none of us, we're all tainted by sin. So then when God saw this, he sent his son, Jesus, to come down to earth and to die on the cross for our sins so that we COULD get to heaven through him. This was also predicted in the Bible, John 3:16, "For God so loved the earth so that he gave his only son, that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

There it is...
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John 3:16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
 
Luke 10 25And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
 
 26 He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou?
   27And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.
   28And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.
 
These are powerful scriptures. They merit our study as sacred scripture; they inform us of our relationship with God. Notice first of all that these are found in the ‘gospel’ books. Next, look at the doctrine that Luke records to procure ‘everlasting life.’ “What is written in the law?” No mention of believing on the death, burial and resurrection of Christ Jesus for payment of sins is here. This is still the LAW program- Judaism. People in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John were being offered Judaism. 
 
Now let’s skip ahead to Romans and see how things have progressed:
 
Romans 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
 
Most obviously, something major has happened to our salvation. Someplace between the gospel books and Romans, we have changed to a completely different plan of salvation. At this point, we are NOT under the LAW, but under GRACE! This is not Judaism. This is Christianity! 
 
This is why it is of no small thing to determine where this change took place. We want our salvation to be based upon scripture that applies to us as the body of Christ.
 
Notice that Judaism did not offer salvation apart from the Law of Moses. .
The basic principle of Christianity was not even a consideration in the gospel books. 
 
Luke 18  31 Then he took unto him the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished.
   32 For he shall be delivered unto the Gentiles, and shall be mocked, and spitefully entreated, and spitted on:
   33 And they shall scourge him, and put him to death: and the third day he shall rise again.
   34 And they understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken.
 
By these scriptures, we can see that the 12 disciples had no concept of the death, burial and resurrection of Christ as a means of salvation. This was still 100% Judaism (salvation by the Law of Moses).
 

We need to look at the issue of our salvation very carefully, understanding it from top to bottom and inside out, because this is where we live or die. We don’t want to miss it.

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Subject: Church Factions & Salvation
Date: Oct 22, 2007 17:53
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In October, 2007 Churches in Busan, South Korea invited evangelist Franklin Graham in hopes of reviving their country. Sang Gyoo Lee, a professor of church history at Kosin University reportedly said, "Faction-torn churches set aside their differences to work together to reach their nation..."

I'd like to hear what these reunited church leaders tell the Korean heathens how to receive eternal life.

"You must be water baptized, but it's really just an OUTWARD sign of an INWARD change. If you invite Jesus into your heart, you must also make him Lord of your life, but that's only if He has predestined to accept you. If you speak in unknown tongues, that means you were filled with the Holy Spirit and you were sealed until the day of redemption, however if you do backslide and lose your salvation, you can never be saved again and it will be worse for you than if you had never been saved."

How can a group of people who have never been able to determine the criteria for SALVATION hope to help save ANYONE? The very best they could do in Korea is to spread their own confusion among another nation of people. (And this is the church that is to represent God and bring Christianity to others!)

How can these preachers ignore their contradictory doctrines and actually believe the twisted messages they bring are rational representations of God’s plan of salvation?  I suppose if they deliver their messages with confidence and use a lot of gesturing, then people will believe them.

 A new website that has good comparisons between scripture and church traditions is located at:

http://www.graceteacher.com/   Hector

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Subject: Media Ignores Christian Debate
Date: Sep 25, 2007 22:24
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The Associated Press said this past Sunday that, “If Anglicanism continues on the path of slow but steady splintering, it will effectively do as much harm as a formal schism.” Anglicanism is the world’s third-largest sect of Christianity—the Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches are the first and second, respectively.

 The article said the cause is, “Theological conflict over the 2003 consecration of the first openly gay Episcopal bishop, V. Gene Robinson of New Hampshire…”

 I find it fascinating that the apparently imminent break-up of a 77 million person organization has not found staying power in the global media. Perhaps if a daughter of a prominent gay Episcopal minister had been kidnapped we would have heard more. Or maybe if Rev. Robinson had been found in a sex scandal, with compromising text messages and foot signals.

 The fact that millions are warring over a moral issue didn’t carry much weight Sunday; the issue was dropped and hasn’t become a media front-runner. It seems that Christians will have to be a bit more scandalous if they are to expect media attention.

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